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This journey has been both challenging and rewarding, as I worked to perfect the optics and fine-tune the acquisition process, it started with the bane of RC telescopes:
the dreaded collimation!

The first major upgrade I made to my RC8 was adding the nateman_doo modification to the backplate (CN link). This mod allows independent adjustment of the primary mirror and the focuser alignment, making collimation much easier.

To further refine the notoriously tricky collimation process of an RC telescope, I started using SkyWave collimation tools, particularly for correcting astigmatism. This made collimation more precise and manageable.

Next came the challenge of finding a suitable focal reducer for my imaging setup. My camera, the QHY 268M, has an APS-c sensor, I wanted a reducer that could maximize its real estate without compromising image quality.
  • 0.67x Reducer: A classic choice, but not ideal for an APS-C sensor. No matter how much I fine-tuned collimation, the stars in the corners remained distorted. Of course, modern AI tools like BlurXTerminator (BXT) can correct these issues in post-processing, but I wanted a cleaner optical solution.
  • Starizona Apex ED 0.65x L: This reducer is supposed to work for RC telescopes, and while it did provide excellent focal reduction, I encountered persistent reflections in my images that I couldn’t eliminate. I suspect the small T2 aperture, or the concave final lens element was reflecting light onto the CMOS sensor.
  • FF 0.8x Corrector: Typically designed for 10”+ RC telescopes, I decided to give it a try. Adapting my optical train to it was tricky, and I barely had enough back focus, but once I got it working — perfection! A beautifully flat field with pinpoint stars all the way to the edges of the sensor. Hurrah!

 I captured this image over the course of a week, shooting from my balcony under a Bortle 7/8 sky — definitely less than ideal conditions.

My trusty CEM60, mounted on a homemade pier, handled guiding with ease, maintaining an error of 0.4”–0.6”.

Astrophotography doesn't end with capturing images — post-processing is an art in itself. My workflow was relatively straightforward:
  1. Gradient Removal: Corrected gradients in each channel individually using GradientCorrection.
  2. Channel Combination: Merged the channels in an SHO palette and created a synthetic luminance by integrating them.
  3. Decovolution and noise reduction: Applied BlurXTerminator (BXT) and NoiseXTerminator (NXT) for noise reduction and sharpening.
  4. Star Removal: Used StarXTerminator (SXT) for star extraction.
  5. Stretching & Color Processing:
    • Stretched using Generalized Hyperbolic Stretch (GHS).
    • Combined LRGB.
    • Applied SelectiveColorCorrection for final color balancing.
    • Used UnsharpMask & MultiscaleMedianTransform (MMT) to enhance details.

  6. Star Reintroduction: Added stars back using SXT-extracted stars and SetiAstro’s NB to RGB Star Combination tool

All in all, I’m happy with the result — though that’s just my personal take. I’d love to hear feedback from more experienced astrophotographers.

Thanks to everyone who takes the time to comment, and clear skies!
Massimo
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I think it's lovely, it was certainly worth the effort involved to get everything dialed in.
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That image looks very nice! I love the details of bubble portion. I just purchased a similar scope and still in the process to refine the collimation
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This journey has been both challenging and rewarding, as I worked to perfect the optics and fine-tune the acquisition process, it started with the bane of RC telescopes:
the dreaded collimation!

The first major upgrade I made to my RC8 was adding the nateman_doo modification to the backplate (CN link). This mod allows independent adjustment of the primary mirror and the focuser alignment, making collimation much easier.

To further refine the notoriously tricky collimation process of an RC telescope, I started using SkyWave collimation tools, particularly for correcting astigmatism. This made collimation more precise and manageable.

Next came the challenge of finding a suitable focal reducer for my imaging setup. My camera, the QHY 268M, has an APS-c sensor, I wanted a reducer that could maximize its real estate without compromising image quality.
  • 0.67x Reducer: A classic choice, but not ideal for an APS-C sensor. No matter how much I fine-tuned collimation, the stars in the corners remained distorted. Of course, modern AI tools like BlurXTerminator (BXT) can correct these issues in post-processing, but I wanted a cleaner optical solution.
  • Starizona Apex ED 0.65x L: This reducer is supposed to work for RC telescopes, and while it did provide excellent focal reduction, I encountered persistent reflections in my images that I couldn’t eliminate. I suspect the small T2 aperture, or the concave final lens element was reflecting light onto the CMOS sensor.
  • FF 0.8x Corrector: Typically designed for 10”+ RC telescopes, I decided to give it a try. Adapting my optical train to it was tricky, and I barely had enough back focus, but once I got it working — perfection! A beautifully flat field with pinpoint stars all the way to the edges of the sensor. Hurrah!

 I captured this image over the course of a week, shooting from my balcony under a Bortle 7/8 sky — definitely less than ideal conditions.

My trusty CEM60, mounted on a homemade pier, handled guiding with ease, maintaining an error of 0.4”–0.6”.

Astrophotography doesn't end with capturing images — post-processing is an art in itself. My workflow was relatively straightforward:
  1. Gradient Removal: Corrected gradients in each channel individually using GradientCorrection.
  2. Channel Combination: Merged the channels in an SHO palette and created a synthetic luminance by integrating them.
  3. Decovolution and noise reduction: Applied BlurXTerminator (BXT) and NoiseXTerminator (NXT) for noise reduction and sharpening.
  4. Star Removal: Used StarXTerminator (SXT) for star extraction.
  5. Stretching & Color Processing:
    • Stretched using Generalized Hyperbolic Stretch (GHS).
    • Combined LRGB.
    • Applied SelectiveColorCorrection for final color balancing.
    • Used UnsharpMask & MultiscaleMedianTransform (MMT) to enhance details.

  6. Star Reintroduction: Added stars back using SXT-extracted stars and SetiAstro’s NB to RGB Star Combination tool

All in all, I’m happy with the result — though that’s just my personal take. I’d love to hear feedback from more experienced astrophotographers.

Thanks to everyone who takes the time to comment, and clear skies!
Massimo

Looks good! well done. Could you speak to the use of the InnovationsForesight collimation tool? What kind of data is necessary to get an accurate model of the telescope? I have been watching them for a bit now and I really like what they are doing. 

Thanks!
Joe
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am.will 2.41
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Following the collimation question
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Hi Joe, 

Thanks for your comment! 

If I remember correctly, the only data needed to buy a collimation model for SkyWave are the scope's diameter and obstruction.
The focal length and camera parameters can be adjusted within a given scope model. 

It’s not cheap — especially for me, since I’m running it emulated on a Mac under Parallels , so I had to pay also for that — but I do find it particularly useful for astigmatism correction.

While adjusting the primary mirror using a defocused star at the center of the field is fairly straightforward, checking for astigmatism is more challenging. As you probably know, to ensure balanced off-axis astigmatism, a defocused star should maintain the same degree of oblongness when moved around the center of the field. I found it quite difficult to judge this by eye. 

Additionally, SkyWave can check for spherical aberration, which in an RC scope is linked to the mirror spacing, a critical factor that also affects backfocus. I had to move the secondary to get enough backfocus for my FF 0.8x corrector and Skywave allowed me to check that I wasn’t getting too much aberration doing that.  

Overall, SkyWave simplifies a process that can be done with other tools (Ronchi diffraction gratings, Cheshire eyepieces, lasers, etc.) but makes it easier, especially for beginners. 

Best,
Massimo
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Thanks so much Massimo, I suspect I will purchase the software soon. I really like the feedback it gives. And its level of accuracy. 

CS!
Joe
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