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Hello! Is This a Good First Deep-Sky Setup? (Nikon Zf-Based Rig) Introduce yourself! · Deniz Üzel · ... · 32 · 514 · 0

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Deniz Üzel:
Thank you Deepan for the respons ! I am considering adding a EAF to my list right now. Also currently i was checking on the camera just you told me the ASI533MC pro version. Also do you think that ASIAIR is a good investment to go for ? Do you also think that ASI585MC pro is a waste of money for beginning ?

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Getting started with Astrphotography is challenging. Gear setup, Image acquisition and Processing. 
There are multiple points of failure. 

The ASIAir makes image acquisition simple and easy. But the downside is you are forced to use only ZWO products (mostly). And some of the ZWO products (in my opinion) are expensive compared to its competitors.  

If you think, you are motivated and willing to spend a little bit more time and effort, Mini PC + NINA is amazing. 
Currently I am using a Mele 2Q mini PC and I remote in to it from my Mac using the Windows App. 
Getting started with it might be tricky, but it is versatile and you'll have plenty of choice in cameras and accessories that you can pick from. 

If you prefer to get started right away, ASIAir is the way to go. 

Regarding the camera, I think the purpose of 585MC is different, it is way smaller than the full frame sensor you are considering to use. 


Good luck and Hope it helps!
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Thank you so much Deepan for you response. Now looking at the ZWO ASI 533MC pro. Also what softwares would you prefer for editing and stacking. Thank you once again.

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Deepan Vishal:
Mini PC + NINA is amazing


Highly second that.
While ZWO aren't bad, they sometimes make questionable design decisions. Going the Mini PC + NINA route means being able to pick and choose more freely what you want in your rig.

As for software, there's the venerable (but somewhat expensive) PixInsight. Seti-Astro-Suit and Siril are both free and good too. (I use Siril with SirilIC for staking and SAS fo processing, but they each can do both stacking and processing)
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andrea tasselli:
An electronic focuser is very much NOT necessary when beginning (or ever)


I second this - take a look at Trevor from Astrobackyard - he uses a Batinov mask all the time.

I personally think you have a *great* first-setup here. Both the OTA and the mount are battle-tested and well known, and will last you through multiple upgrades if you so choose.. (and more-importantly sell easily in the used market).

Assuming you aren't in B1 skies all the time (you say not), you are also missing a filter or two - and a filter drawer (although maybe you could thread directly into the OTA).

A couple of other things to think about:

- If you go ASIAir you are stuck with ZWO gear (outside of the mount). This may not be an issue as they make almost-everything - but it does limit you a little.
- Do strongly consider the used market for this first rig. You can get some great bargains (I myself have sold gear way-cheaper than I should have). I see the mount you have in your list selling used almost weekly here in Australia.
- Have you considered a harmonic mount? There are some pretty decent models coming out of China these days - brands like Juwei, or ProxiSky (and of course ZWO) - that compete closely with the mount you have listed in performance, with the added benefit of not having to deal with counterweights/balance and being nice and light to carry around.

One final note: Damon Scotting has a great series over on YouTube where he goes into a lot of different rigs of different prices. I'd recommend giving his channel a watch: https://youtube.com/@damonscotting
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Hey Dunk, thank you so much for the comment ! It is very helpfull. I will give a look to that channel right now. One question, dose the harmonical mounts that are close to the prices of heq5 pro have good payload capacity ? Thank you once again for the detailed suggestions !

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If you can afford to buy it now a cooled camera is the way to go for what you want to image.

The SkyWatcher HEQ5 is adequate at best. You get more performance and capability with an EQ6R or AZEQ6 if you want to do visual astronomy as well imaging.  Either of these will set you up for a telescope upgrade down the line.   The latest strainwave mounts are probably an even better buy but theres more cost up front.
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Thank you Himanshu ! Do you have any budget beginning ZWO cameras you can suggest for me ?

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Deniz Üzel:
Thank you Himanshu ! Do you have any budget beginning ZWO cameras you can suggest for me ?

CS

The asi585 and 533 are great cameras.  Anything ZWO labeled as a DSO camera, meaning it has active cooling on board, is a great camera and they are mainly differentiated by sensor size.

I started with a 585 camera on a 2000mm focal length telescope in Bortle 7/8 suburban Los Angles skies and had many frustrating nights due to a lack of enough stars in the field of view to plate solve.   The 533 has twice the sensor size than the 585 is much more useful, and it is still small for camera sensors.
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