What about all those AI photo descriptions? Anything goes · Franco Grimoldi · ... · 58 · 2065 · 8

Rustyd100 5.76
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Haha! I guess I have the classic view. Didn’t know there was another one. How is it initiated?  I don’t see the three dots on my phone.
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zermelo 7.22
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Dave Rust:
Haha! I guess I have the classic view. Didn’t know there was another one. How is it initiated?  I don’t see the three dots on my phone.

In my case, all images from search results open by default with the new view... then I look for the three dots to go back to the usual "Classic view".
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siovene
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Bob Lockwood:
Salvatore Iovene,  I think it works either way, just something to get used to.

One thing that could make it easier for someone that wants to view the Classic view is maybe instead of these three dots,
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have it say, "click here for Classic view".

Hi Bob, to be honest I don't think this is a good idea. For sure, while I want to keep the option, I don't think there's a need for a large button to incentivize people to use a version that, frankly, is demonstrably inferior from lots of points of view. Never mind that "Click here for Classic view" cannot possibly be accommodated in that space.

I see two options:

1. You can't be persuaded to like the new UI, which is fine, in which case turn it off permanently in your preferences? Disable the new search experience, and when available to you, do not enable the new gallery experience.

2. You need to go back to the classic view only occasionally, in which case please let me know if there's a specific use-case that brings you there. I can either tell you how to do it in the new UI, or improve it so you won't feel the need anymore.
Franco Grimoldi:
I find myself always going back to the "Classic view", I find it easier to view/read/navigate... but I'm old, grumpy and have severe difficulties with change/progress 😅.

That's okay, and it's good that you're aware of the correlation between belonging to a certain demographic and being adverse to change. It is obviously a thing, tho I wouldn't generalize of course. Personally, I cannot remember a UI overhaul done by a major website with lots of user that wasn't met with discontent by a percentage of the user base. Even when we're talking about billion dollar enterprises who spent millions and millions on user research, top-of-the-field designers, etc.

If you just can't be persuaded to appreciate the advantages of the new UI, you can simply stick to the classic view using your preferences.
Dave Rust:
Haha! I guess I have the classic view. Didn’t know there was another one. How is it initiated?  I don’t see the three dots on my phone.

Since late summer, the search page has been overhauled and that brought a new image viewer with it. You can read more here:
https://welcome.astrobin.com/blog/introducing-the-new-astrobin-search-experience

If you don't have this, you can enable it in your preferences:
https://www.astrobin.com/profile/edit/preferences/

("Enable new search experience")

Right now I'm also in the process of beta testing and rolling out a new gallery experience. Details here:
https://welcome.astrobin.com/blog/introducing-the-new-astrobin-gallery-experience

which uses the same new image viewer.

When it rolls out to you, you'll find a banner on your gallery inviting you to try it. You can opt-in, or dismiss the banner, or regulate the behavior of the site on that regard again in your preferences.
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daniele.borsari 5.25
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One thing I don't really like about the new image viewer is how the equipment is displayed. I would like the equipment to be divided into category (imaging telescope, camera, filters, mount, etc. etc.), and not only by the relatively small icon before the equipment name.

This is my feedback.
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Daniele Borsari:
One thing I don't really like about the new image viewer is how the equipment is displayed. I would like the equipment to be divided into category (imaging telescope, camera, filters, mount, etc. etc.), and not only by the relatively small icon before the equipment name.

This is my feedback.

Thanks, this is also a point of doubt for me. Category headers are definitely better for legibility, but it takes way more space if you have to have a new line each time. I wonder how it would look like with category labels without new lines! Can I DM you a screenshot of a test?
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daniele.borsari 5.25
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Salvatore Iovene:
Thanks, this is also a point of doubt for me. Category headers are definitely better for legibility, but it takes way more space if you have to have a new line each time. I wonder how it would look like with category labels without new lines! Can I DM you a screenshot of a test?


Yeah, no problem
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rveregin 8.47
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Regarding, AI descriptions for images, is that there is nothing you are providing on your own, then I can get an AI description, just as easily as I can go to Wikipedia, all by myself. The problem to me is that none of this is personal. What would you think if you asked someone a question about their philosophy, or their take on something, and they brought out their phone to see what the AI said they thought?

If I am to relate to you, I want to know how you feel, what you think. If all you relate to me is what some AI says, why do I need you.

Fundamentally, there is no issue using AI, just like any other tool, but if you let it replace what you think, what you find interesting, what you find exciting, then what value do you add? Why do I need you if you just parrot an AI?

Use AI to help with research, with understanding, with bringing out the best in your images, but you must explore on your own, and make sure that what is there is what you want and believe.

In the end I am with you, if you express your true self with the tools available. I'm not onboard if you use AI tools to totally craft the end result, as the final result must come from you, not a ChatBot, no matter how sophisticated. There is a real problem if you use some AI tool, and then have no further input of yourself.
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Dan R:
But I suppose that's just my opinion. I get some people might use their gallery on here as a means of sharing their images with others that perhaps don't know as much about these objects as the average astrophotographer might do.


I think this is quite spot on. Also, the search for information about various objects within an image can be quite exciting. I mostly spend hours and hours doing research and finding out/learning about my targets and objects that happens to be there as well. So for me it's a journey that starts when I select the FOV on my Asiair, then it ends when I've researched the objects and done a write up about whatever I personally find interesting and want to display. Just like here or to a lesser extent here.

Astrobin is much more than just a community to me it also serves as a sort of portfolio.  Images are viewable for anyone and containing information, identifiers etc can be helpful to anyone stumbling upon them. It's also a nice way to document your own journey and how you progress.

To me this is about what I enjoy, not what anyone else might like or not. To do so I use various sources, but often a Wiki might be very helpful as it can contain a lot of good information and I'm by no means a scientist so I have no basis to make any comments without the use of external sources. 

While AI-generated captions can be informative, they often lack the personal touch that makes each photo special. For example, understanding how conversational AI works can be helpful as explained here https://clerk.chat/blog/conversational-ai/ but when it comes to sharing our own creations, adding a personal opinion about the process or the meaning of an image can be of great importance to us.

That's my rationale at least. As to AI generated texts I have never liked them either. They are very obvious 99% of the time with very exaggerated language (especially adjectives). But then again, it's not my image so I'm not in a position to decide what they should or could do, I don't really see it much though tbh. Perhaps on various Facebook groups. If that's what makes them feel good, then go for it. But personally I wouldn't give it much of a read. Neither would I care enough to think much about it either I think.

The research process is just as exciting as capturing the image itself. It adds depth and meaning to the experience!
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ScottF 4.52
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Tony Gondola:
I have often wondered what to do with the description box. Do I add details for the AP community or for the general public? Maybe we need two text boxes, one for object information and another for technical comments.

I'm in the same boat. I usually write very little, if anything. I didn't think anyone read beyond the acquisition details, but maybe I will start doing a little write-up for those interested in my astrophotography flailings. lol
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