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This would lead to people being discouraged, particularly those starting out. If you want to give people constructive criticism, then you can leave a thoughtful comment.
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Sam Badcock: Instagram's dislike button appears to be a test feature: and for comments, not posts. The intended outcome appears to be to make comments more friendly, i.e., less toxic. "Some of you may have seen that we're testing a new button next to comments on Instagram - this gives people a private way to signal that they don’t feel good about that particular comment. I want to be clear: this is a test, there is no dislike count, nor will anyone know if you tap the button. Eventually, we may integrate this signal into comments ranking to move disliked comments lower down. Our hope is that this might help make comments more friendly on Instagram." I cannot imagine a scenario in which an image here can be considered "toxic" or less friendly. A non relevant image can simply be removed after being reported. In other words, the Instagram case is not applicable here. The only purpose a dislike button will serve is to allow a few people to indulge their sense of superiority. |
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Arun H:Sam Badcock: Ahh yes I’m with ya now on that first point!! I think I may have missed that test but it sounds like it served the same function as its TikTok variant I’m also very inclined to agree with you on that last paragraph!! It’ll create a negative atmosphere and this community isn’t about that!! If ya don’t like something then keep scrolling 🤷♂️ simple What I would like to see more of though is constructive criticism on people’s images whether you like it or not!! I’m guilty for not participating n this or stating that on my posts but as someone has mentioned, people don’t like public criticism!! Maybe a private messaging feature might be more suitable for criticism?? |
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Sam Badcock: There is a private messaging system here, and it has been discussed quite a bit above. It's a bit obscure to find it at first, so if you're new here I can certainly see how you might have overlooked it. You can find it if you click the down arrow to the right of your name. It's labeled "Messages." And when you're looking at someone else's image, you can click "User" and then "Send private message." |
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Timothy Martin:Sam Badcock: Ahh yep bang on mate thanks for pointing that out, awesome!! |
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Hey folks, there is no bad reason for arguing apparently. I don't see in what respect the Astrobin community is dysfunctional. quite to the contrary, it is one of the best onlline community I know. Therefore, I do not see what a dyslike would bring, except for unconstructive fights. Todays internet functions with likes as token of appreciation and their absence as absence of appreciation. Is there really any need for negative feedback here ? Why dont' you let the post die. That is the usual "dislike" button, |
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HI This is a meme about having a like and dislike button. A little humor doesn't hurt, and of course, there's no intention to offend or anything like that.  |
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Without meaning to sound facetious, I’d say this kind of thing does come pretty close to a "dislike" button:  My opinion aligns with that of many others already expressed here: this kind of button has no place on a site like AstroBin. One can express positive feedback on an image either in a simple way (just a like) or through a more detailed comment; but when it comes to negative opinions, the bare minimum should be that they are accompanied by constructive commentary. If the purpose is merely to indicate that we don’t like an image, beyond simply choosing to ignore it, it opens the door to the most uncivil and biased forms of behavior. JB |
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I'm unconvinced that a community is "dysfunctional" without dislike buttons. This community seems to be functioning just fine.
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I love Astrobin … It is primarily a space one can feel safe to store and be proud of their efforts in astrophotography a place to encourage new folks and appreceate and draw inspiration from others work. Let's NOT turn Astrobin into yet another place for people to argue and vent their feelings, where a troll with one token post can run down other peoples work. Hard NO - If you don't like it, keep scrolling … |
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I am in the "No" camp. Feedback on your image is one thing, a constructive comment either complimenting an image or suggesting an area for improvement (Or both) can be useful and just a plain old "Like" can at least be taken as a suggestion to keep on going the way you already are but a dislike is just that, a dislike. No explanation, no reason, just dislike. Did they not like the target, how it was framed, did they just spend a heap of time on the same one and are annoyed as your shot is better? Have they decided that they don't like you for a comment you made on one of their images (Constructive or otherwise) and want some payback? I really don't see the value of people being able to smash a dislike button and scroll on. |
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You should handle images you dislike just like this community should handle edgelord topics like this one: see, ignore, and move on with life.
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The ultimate goal is to display the reality of the perception of the community. This is not correct. According to the FAQ's, Astrobin' goal is: "An effort to host, collect, index, and categorize the output of astrophotographers all over the world so that their precious data would serve a purpose, and have a meaning forever." Every image, good or bad, beginner or advanced, small or big gear has meaning and all people should feel encouraged to publish their images here. For some that means that others have just viewed their work, others may be encouraged by likes, or even the occasional award. For those that want to improve on their work, there are plenty options to do so. For those that just want to contribute and be part of it, they should not feel under pressure and certainly are not waiting for negative feedback. I have always found the astro-imaging community extremely helpful, friendly and supportive. Over the years I've learned tons from it, and still do every day. That is pretty functional in my book, and all of that without dislikes. |
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Hi all, @kv54 you are absolutely right. Like button says nothing about image quality. and so will dislike button. many a times, I like an image, which may be very noisy, less processed or even some trails. I like them because someone out somewhere took the effort to put together their equipment, spend time in darkness trying to get some light out from the unknown. this sense always puts a smile on my face. Second, there is day and night difference between a dislike button and what you are wanting with well-intentioned critique or constructive feedback. they are actually opposite. at a deeper level, the source of constructive feedback or critique has to stem from liking or accepting something. A community with no dislike button is NOT dysfunctional, but a community with lot of dislikes may start to behave as dysfunctional. This is an amazing community. |
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Dominik Weinbrenner: I could have used the dislike-button for this comment of yours. You're an "edgelord" yourself (a ridiculous Anglicism, by the way), acting like this! The fact that you didn't ignore the topic, as you yourself even recommend, speaks volumes and demonstrates the relevance and also the contradictory nature of your feedback. It's unclear what you're after... |
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Hi all, thanks for the feedback. Two weeks after posting this topic, I'm still convinced that we need this button. It's primary purpose is to tweak accounts that produce bad or average images with lots of likes. The community can control this and it is ok if she does it. If there's a Yes, there must also be a No! In real life, by the way, there are a lot of No's!. And you cannot escape the No's. If you don't dare to post anything, because a No cold come, please leave it on your hard drive. An inflation of low-quality images with lots of stupid likes is not what we need! CS, Klaus P.S. I have no fear of such a button, because my images are no pretty pictures. But those who have lots of likes because they gained lots of followers may fear this button… |
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I think a dislike button is completely unneeded and serves zero purpose. IMO
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Ok, but then the Like Button has no purpose as well?
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hi, all KV54 ,I would like to ask you a question, what is the main reason that makes you think that a dislike button is necessary? I would like to know, if possible, in percentages, for example 50% for this reason, 20% for x reason, so we could perhaps begin to understand the idea better. My intention is to be able to understand the idea of that button CS Brian |
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Hi Brian, I think everyone has understood the idea of this button. If you have not, please read all the comments in this thread. But the opponents fear that they may gather lots of dislikes. As I said: As long as the positive feedback can be given simply by click and the negative feedback only by personal comment with much more effort we will face an asymmetry which pushes average or bad quality images posted by participants with lots of followers to the top of likes. And this is the reason why I would like to have this button. To stop this! BR, Klaus |
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hi Thanks for answering me, yes I read everything from the first day, and perhaps my lack of knowledge did not allow me to understand the reason for using a dislike button as a weapon to combat something. Now I know it's a weapon Let me tell you something you didn't understand from the start when you joined AB. This isn't a competition or a division of social classes. All images are beautiful. It's a hobby. It's about putting a little bit of yourself into each image. Not about looking at the person next to you to see if their image is prettier and then creating feelings. If they win a TP, or IOTD, if they have more likes. If the goal is to win (likes, IOTD, TP, TPN), then good luck. As I always say, if you're in this hobby with the intention of winning IOTD, sooner or later you'll get hurt. Thanks for making me understand the intention of the dislike button. Good luck with that. And as I always say, don't stop looking at the stars. CS Brian |
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It's pretty clear what the bin community thinks about the idea of a dislike button. The horse is well beaten at this point.
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I would certainly agree that my images as a beginner are pretty bad compared to where I am now. Had there been a dislike button then, I would have been discouraged and maybe even dropped the hobby. More valuable is a custom comment with helpful advice. That's what I find valuable about this site: The experienced folks pull the newbies up.
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If you don't dare to post anything, because a No cold come, please leave it on your hard drive. Hi @kv54 I really didn't like to jump into this discussion. But I really don't like quoted sentences - what gives you the confidence to tell others what should someone publish and not? Not to mention this goes directly against the Astrobin philosophy (from FAQ):  I think with your idea and your arguments you really want to change the most basic philosophy of this fine and friendly place. As you can imagine: I am also against your idea. |
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Yes, but only for this idea.
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