2600MC Tilt Adjustment in NINA ZWO ASI2600MC Pro · IrishAstro4484 · ... · 52 · 2983 · 4

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Jason Coon:
Jason Coon:
Jason Coon:
Jason Coon:
I was using the NINA aberration inspector just last night with an ASG photon cage.  Having the adjustments in a 4-point configuration and accessible from the rear of the camera certainly makes the entire process a lot easier.  The tilt plate on the ASI cameras is a good idea but a poor implementation.  If I were looking to purchase an ASI2600 today I’d get the Poseidon-C Pro instead because it has rear accessible 4-point tilt adjustment.

https://player-one-astronomy.com/product/poseidon-c-pro-imx571-usb3-0-color-cooled-camera/


Small warning that these cameras, at least the mono ones from what I've been told, have significant driver problems causing artifacts and glow in images on sensors that we as a community know are otherwise very clean.

While I appreciate the heads-up, I have no doubt that even if true driver problems are easily overcome.


I think you missed the point in the warning. Otherwise (meaning in other products) these problems do not exist. 

These are brand new cameras on the market, and I get the excitement, but let's cool down on the recommendations while the product itself has legitimate imaging problems.

I think the same can be said for the warnings based on "what I've been told".  Unless you have first-hand experience you are just spreading rumors and potentially harming a new entrant into this field.  I also didn't recommend it to anyone, I said it's what I would do.  When I first started in this hobby I was misdirected substantially by people simply repeating what they have been told, or read from someone else who was just a retelling of what someone else had been told.  The "old wives tales" as it were of bad information being repeated over and over.  So I apologize if this comes across as rude, that is not my intent, but the phrase "I've been told" is a big red flag for me.  If there are numerous examples of people having issues, or of the manufacturer acknowledging them I can accept that, share a link, I'd be happy to read up and educate myself.  But warning people away from a new product, and particularly from a new company trying to innovate in this space, is just as harmful, if not more so, as what you suggested I was doing.


Here you go Jason 

https://www.cloudynights.com/topic/850937-player-one-poseidon-camera/page-2#entry12396482

Problems accounted for by the manufacturer. Seriously dude... Spend less time being rude to people.

Thanks for the link, and I see that the manufacturer is responsive and just posted a fix today, as I would expect.


Yeah, they posted some code that apparently didn't fix the problem.

One of the issues I've seen with these CMOS camera manufacturers, especially new ones that pop up out of nowhere, is that the software is often lacking.

I'm going to have to pass on this, and pass on any recommendations I see until they can prove they have stable software running these cameras.

My advice to you remains.

I don't have the mono version, but I have the Poseidon C Pro and I HIGHLY recommend them.  Especially over ZWO.  No driver issues and no issue with noise or glow.
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Jason Coon:
The OctoPi works, but it's 3-position adjustment was problematic to use, and the 3D printed filter holders, while better than nothing, just feel very imprecise relative to the built quality of the overall device.


Must have been an older Octopi. I have two and they are both 4 point adjustments and therefore work well with NINA/Hocus Focus.
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Chris White- Overcast Observatory:
That's why I'm potentially leaning towards using the aberation inspector for tilt adjustment.




Robert,

I've put together a document on tilt and spacing analysis.  Parts III and IV are specific to single frame analysis using aberration inspector. See attached.  2022-11-29 A guide to fixing tilt and spacing with objective analysis-Chris White.pdf

Thanks for sharing your work!

I have a an IMX571 sensor on a recat51 and I'm pretty sure I have a sensor tilt when i look at the shape of the stars in the corners, I did all the test to be sure (ratotion of the camera, different position of the mount, etc...) and it seems to confirm that it does not comes from the scope or flexure. 

I'll try to run an hocus focus run ASAP, but I'm afraid to use the ASI2600MC tilt plate as you and many others say it's really hard tomake small adjusments and to be honest, BurXterminator makes my data very clean.

Also, when I look at stars in the corner, it looks like I could have some backspacing error, but isn't it impossible with the redcat? I'm confused. I really need to run hocus focus...

Last comment, how can you make sure the tilt does not come from the spacers? I guess by trying with some others but I don't have others so if you have another idea that would help !

Again thanks for sharing your experience and the time spent.

cheers
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