Minicam8 OAG QHYCCD MiniCAM8M · Eric Gagne · ... · 8 · 239 · 0

EricGagne 3.82
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I thought minicam8 owners would like to know,  the OAG will be available on preorder soon.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DK1RImSOR2U/
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Z3ph0d 2.15
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That's really interesting! Thanks for posting.

I can see  it has a large prism (14mmx10mm), allowing it to be used with guide cameras with large sensors, like the ASI174MM that I currently use.
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ScottF 4.52
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Looks great, thanks for posting.
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rnshagam 1.20
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It will be interesting to see how it works out.  I've always been kind of dubious of OAG–how do you get enough, if any stars in the field of view.  Would an ASI120mini mm work ok for the guider?  My initial trials with the MiniCam were with a vintage orange tube C8, and I hardly got enough stars in that field of view to even do stacking properly.  (I know, a C8 is totally inappropriate for a sensor the size of the IM585, but I had to try, given I had just inherited the OTA.)
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EricGagne 3.82
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I never used a OAG so I really know nothing about them but if the prism is as large as the camera sensor wouldn’t you get all the same stars for guiding than your lights get ?  

Maybe it will come with its own camera
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Z3ph0d 2.15
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Richard Shagam:
It will be interesting to see how it works out.  I've always been kind of dubious of OAG--how do you get enough, if any stars in the field of view.  Would an ASI120mini mm work ok for the guider?  My initial trials with the MiniCam were with a vintage orange tube C8, and I hardly got enough stars in that field of view to even do stacking properly.  (I know, a C8 is totally inappropriate for a sensor the size of the IM585, but I had to try, given I had just inherited the OTA.)

I've actually done more trial and error than research, so there may be a way to calculate the exact ratio and sizes, but I've learnt a few things the hard way:

1. ASI174MM and ZWO OAG does not work
The sensor of the ASI174MM is too large at 11.3x7.1mm for the ZWO OAG, which has a prism size of 8mmx8mm. The vignetting is too severe to allow effective guiding.

2. ASI17MM and Celestron OAG works
The 12.5mmx12.5mm prism of the Celestron OAG provides enough light (FoV in a sens I guess) for the ASI174mm.

3: Celestron SCT field correction
I have a Celestron C9.25 XLT (without field correction) and the stars are extremely distorted at the edge where the OAG prism picks off the light. PHD2 does an incredible job, but the stars, well, don't look much like stars at all.

Based om my experience, the ASI120MM Mini should work, as it has a tiny sensor at 4.8x3.6mm. It shoudl get enough light. There may be issues with the star distortion depending on your focal length and field correction. One option may be to run the guide camera in bin 2.
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ScottF 4.52
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I would recommend at least the 220 for the guide cam. It’s a better camera and will be better for picking up stars. The 174 is superb.
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Gondola 8.11
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Eric Gagne:
I never used a OAG so I really know nothing about them but if the prism is as large as the camera sensor wouldn’t you get all the same stars for guiding than your lights get ?  

Maybe it will come with its own camera

No, the stars that are on your sensor chip never go through the OAG prism. It's picking off a field that's outside the fov of the sensor.
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Astronopete 2.11
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When your pickoff prism is larger than your imaging sensor!
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