C11 Unexpected Diffraction Spikes Celestron C11 SC XLT · Jeramie · ... · 29 · 562 · 4

MaksPower 1.20
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In the second image the spikes affect stars consistently across the field - that’s only possible if the cause is at the aperture stop or inside the OTA.

The second aspect is that the spikes are not symmetric - they are one-sided - which points to refraction, not diffraction - as the cause. 

Hence 10:1 it’s due to a thermal plume inside the OTA.
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JayRuhMe 0.90
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That's the dew heater ring uneven heating effect, the glass gets too hot, expands, and causes that. I'm currently investigating a seemingly permanent aberration in my system that I believe could possibly be caused by warping in the glass from this dew heater ring. You should not run this ring over 25-30%.

I'm going to test out different optical incidence angles to see if it's tilt, induced aberration, or the plate itself over the next few days and will likely update this with my findings.

I'd be very interested in what you find. The thought that a Celestron device that was set to auto manage itself has caused permanent damage to the corrector is very upsetting to me. The amount of time it would take to get this repaired by Celestron is about 3 months. I know this because I've had them replace the corrector on this C11 once before. They did a great job, and it imaged perfectly when returned, but I'd be gutted if I had to send this scope back off again. 

Additionally, while I was inspecting the optical path last night, I noticed that I did not have the filter installed when I thought I did, so that eliminated one potential cause. I also noticed that there is quite a bit of dust inside the OTA. The primary isn't covered with dust, but there is more than I would expect for how "new" this scope is. I know it won't matter much, but I'm OCD about these things and maybe this is just the universe providing a path to a new scope purchase. 



I set the dew heater to 20% and we'll see what we get when the skies clear up here. Thanks for all the comments and support.
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andreatax 9.89
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Try with the dew heater OFF and ensure it is well cooled down beforehand. AFAIK no dew heater, be it Celestron's or otherwise, can create permanent warping to a borosilicate plate so rest easy on that one.
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tom62e 1.51
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I have similar spikes with my C11 and I don't use a dew heater.
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JayRuhMe 0.90
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Mystery solved! 

I cranked the dew heater down to 20%, ran an hour's worth of subs, no more spikes! 

Diffraction fixed.jpg

Many thanks to everyone for the help and conversation on this one.
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