New Newtonian Telescope From China Generic equipment discussions · Stephen Shen · ... · 29 · 1894 · 12

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JonMain 1.20
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The issues with the diffraction spikes look like PA error or rotational slippage in the tube rings to me
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TareqPhoto 2.94
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I don't know why i feel that in the past China can make really affordable equipment, but not anymore, or let's say they just don't want to make affordable inexpensive products, i was lucky to buy 8" and 6" Newt at low prices, now one scope say 6" or 8" Newt will cost more than my both 6"/8" Newt, so for now any new product if the price is high i will never be interested, i don't care about those many who can afford because they can, i have many things i want to buy, and i think i will move away from China for some products, i will buy only what i can afford and good price such as filters and mount and some cameras.

I am interested in a dobsonian more than a Newt at larger aperture sizes, something like 20" or 24", or if i have to start then something like 14", but a Newt of 14" here will cost maybe more than a 16" or 18" Dob, so i will wait and wish someone can make telescopes at so much lower prices even if the materials aren't the highest quality.
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Gravity_J 1.51
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MaksPower:
Sure the quality of the machining of the parts is evident, but you haven't used Finite Element Analysis (FEA) to work out where you needed strength, and where you didn't. It's quite obvious just looking at it.

If FEA had been used I would expect you would find your truss serves no mechanical purpose and could have been omitted, making it lighter, many fewer parts, lower cost, and quicker to assemble.

The difference is this:

When you're building a one-off for yourself you don't really care much about the material cost, or your time. Once you have something that works well, you stop. I've "been there done that" many times in my telescope-making days.

But if you are aspiring to build a product that will go into volume production, this is where the product has to be optimized - fewer parts, less weight, less labour, and lower input cost. If this is done well it's quite usual for the result to be better quality, lighter and lower cost than the first prototype you started with. This is what I run in my day job in a large engineering enterprise.

If it is done poorly (Meade and Synta being examples) the product will forever be compromised.

PS like the mirror cell, except that I would not use springs - I always opt for push-pull screws (two smaller M4 screws pushing either side of an M5 bolt pulling). That way collimation stays put, forever.


Hi there,

Thank you for engaging with such depth on the design. Your feedback suggests we should clarify a fundamental structural distinction: This instrument is engineered as a true truss-tube Newtonian reflector. The central component you observed is a "detachable light baffle" – not a load-bearing element. Your perspective actually helped me recognize why the truss might appear redundant: it seems you interpreted it through the lens of a traditional solid-tube Newtonian (referring to conventional one-piece tubed designs, regardless of end openings). In reality, our approach implements a rigid exoskeleton truss framework that serves as the primary stress-bearing structure.

This model represents the compact tier in our truss series, which spans eight configurations:

• 8-inch f/4 & f/5

• 10-inch f/4 & f/5

• 12-inch f/4 & f/5

• 14-inch f/3

• 16-inch f/4

The design rationale is grounded in extreme-field conditions. China’s Northwestern Plateau – a hub for astrophotography expeditions – demands portable yet robust instruments. I regularly transport this telescope in my Jeep Wrangler for spontaneous journeys across this region. Its 3-million-km² wilderness hosts pristine Bortle Class 1 skies, but presents a critical challenge: persistent gusty conditions (Beaufort Scale 4 wind gusts). As Newtonian users know, excessive wind-induced oscillation from the large-diameter tube profile is a key flaw that compromises guiding accuracy on equatorial mounts. Our solution: by decoupling the non-structural baffle from the exoskeleton truss, we maintain optical stability under typical plateau wind conditions – ensuring consistent imaging performance.

On Synta’s limitations (particularly ≥10” models): we’ve addressed the focal plane shift plaguing thin-walled continuous tubes through improved structural design.

Regarding the mirror cell: the shared image omitted our elastically adjustable full-contact mirror locking system – a fundamentally new development diverging completely from existing market solutions. This architecture maintains collimation integrity across -20°C to 40°C thermal cycles while ensuring uniform mirror support.

Thanks again for the thoughtful dialogue – always great to exchange insights with fellow enthusiasts!
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andreatax 9.89
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The issue of wind is well known but in LP affected areas. where a good number of us are operating, not having a shroud to prevent parasitic light ruining the images is very much a no-no, which is why truss tube design aren't very popular, coupled with the fact that they cost more and weight more than equivalent tubed designs. This said I see good design ideas for the primary cell which is the Achille's heel of  the newtons, more so for the cheaper variety.

Having said that you might want to elucidate potential buyers (that's me) about the cost, availability outside China, and weights and dimensions. Thank you.
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MaksPower 1.20
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If you are considering production, you can source CF tubes specifically for OTAs from http://www.klaushelmi.de/en/
In particular it can have a flat molded-in to accommodate a focuser base, and the tube can include a layer of thermal insulation.

Make this a 25cm f/5 or  30cm f/5 or even f/6 with a robust rack & pinion focuser and I'd be interested. Not interested in f/4.
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