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You have to set it up to log in with a pin#. I used to use it that way and it worked fine without constantly asking if you want to stay connected. And you can set it up to remember the PIN, so you never have to use it again after the first time. It's just a checkbox.
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I agree with everyone above. I was using Microsoft Remote Desktop with a VPN to the remote observatory. It never worked so well. I now use Chrome Remote Desktop within a WebCatalog Desktop. It has been rock solid!
I just pop open a window and it just works!
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I'm assuming I have to use Chrome Remote Desktop from a web browser. Is there a way around that?
I also think I probably need to install the Chrome browser as well. I've used Firefox for years and would prefer to use it if I have to use a browser with Chrome Remote Desktop.
Anyone using CRD with Firefox successfully?
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It's a Chrome plug-in so you have to be running Chrome to use it. That said, I think the Microsoft remote desktop works just as well so if Chrome is an issues, just use MS. One advantage that the MS remote desktop has is it will re-connect on it's own of the connection drops. I don't think Chrome remote desktop does that.
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Jerry Gerber:
I'm assuming I have to use Chrome Remote Desktop from a web browser. Is there a way around that?
I also think I probably need to install the Chrome browser as well. I've used Firefox for years and would prefer to use it if I have to use a browser with Chrome Remote Desktop.
Anyone using CRD with Firefox successfully? There's actually an app for CRD now, but I haven't installed it. You can install Chrome and use it only for CRD. You don't have to use it for everything.
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Tony Gondola:
It's a Chrome plug-in so you have to be running Chrome to use it. That said, I think the Microsoft remote desktop works just as well so if Chrome is an issues, just use MS. One advantage that the MS remote desktop has is it will re-connect on it's own of the connection drops. I don't think Chrome remote desktop does that. In my experience, Microsoft required a VPN connection to use Remote Desktop. Good luck getting any of these observatories to set up a VPN for you. CRD doesn't need that at all. And CRD will run fine on an iPhone, iPad, or Android device with no complicated configuration required. A year ago, I was at the American Airlines Center watching Peter Gabriel perform Sledgehammer live while kicking off an imaging session on my phone. Hell, you can go next door and get on your neighbor's computer and be connected with CRD in 30 seconds if you have the PIN. This discussion is making all this waaaaaaay harder than it needs to be.
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Jerry Gerber:
I'm assuming I have to use Chrome Remote Desktop from a web browser. Is there a way around that?
I also think I probably need to install the Chrome browser as well. I've used Firefox for years and would prefer to use it if I have to use a browser with Chrome Remote Desktop.
Anyone using CRD with Firefox successfully? I use Safari, and never liked any other browsers. To me, Chrome is not a browser. It's a program dedicated to the remote desktop app, but it can act as a browser if you want it to.
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Timothy Martin:
Tony Gondola:
It's a Chrome plug-in so you have to be running Chrome to use it. That said, I think the Microsoft remote desktop works just as well so if Chrome is an issues, just use MS. One advantage that the MS remote desktop has is it will re-connect on it's own of the connection drops. I don't think Chrome remote desktop does that.
In my experience, Microsoft required a VPN connection to use Remote Desktop. Good luck getting any of these observatories to set up a VPN for you. CRD doesn't need that at all. And CRD will run fine on an iPhone, iPad, or Android device with no complicated configuration required. A year ago, I was at the American Airlines Center watching Peter Gabriel perform Sledgehammer live while kicking off an imaging session on my phone. Hell, you can go next door and get on your neighbor's computer and be connected with CRD in 30 seconds if you have the PIN. This discussion is making all this waaaaaaay harder than it needs to be. That probably isn't true anymore as I connect with DSPR and to my knowledge they've never set up a VPN and I don't have one. My only problem with Windows Remote Desktop is sometimes I lose connection for 10 seconds at most but I get automatically reconnected in a few seconds after that. It doesn't have any effect on my remote computer running NINA, imaging is never interrupted. This problem is far more likely to be a result of Starlink, and not Windows Remote Desktop. I will still try Chrome Remote and I think I can use it with Firefox, and I noticed after I installed it that Firefox now has an an extension plug in called Chrome Remote. Would I prefer a fiber optic connection? Of course, but it's not available (yet) at DSPR. This is my only complaint, otherwise it's a great remote site. If Chrome Remote performs better, I'll use that. If not I'll stick with WRD. Chris, the tech at DSPR, today ran a ping test for 10 hours with 0% packet loss over 40,000 pings, so maybe Chrome Remote will be more stable.
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The ping test is a good start, but it does not necessarily explain the connection failures with WRD. A ping is just a data packet that is sent via the ICMP protocol. In principle, you can use it to check accessibility. A 10 ms connection loss is not always recognized by ping, especially if the packet loss is very short. If a packet is lost, ping normally indicates this as a packet loss (a missing response or “Request Timed Out”). In some cases, if the packet has not been completely lost but only delayed, this can be displayed as increased latency. This is enough for WRD and the connection breaks off. It would make more sense to perform a tracert several times.
Since the dropouts are short and the connection is re-established quickly, the problem could caused by Starlink. Perhaps the routes change relatively frequently and this causes the disconnections?
You should definitely try Chrome and other remote clients and see if the problem also occurs with them. The free version of TeamViewer is also worth a try.
If the disconnects are occurring, Chris could also use Wireshark during a WRD session to look for a pattern. This is what we do in our company when we need to troubleshoot network issues and they are not immediately obvious.
Another alternative would be to establish a VPN connection between your PC and the PC at the remote location. However, this can lead to an even higher latency between the end devices, as the basic latency of Starlink is already very high, which can also lead to problems. You would simply have to test this. Tailscale, SoftEther or OpenVPN would come to mind spontaneously.
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I have TightVNC running on the Windows PC where I have my imaging software (NINA/PHD/.Sharpcap/…) installed and I can access it via a VNC Viewer on all of my other devices (even when i'm not on my own network, by using port forwarding on my ISP's modem/router). I'm connecting either from an iPad, a Mac or a notebook from my work - all work fine.
I never have connection issues and the quality is always OK.
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Just a note of caution, stay clear of NoMachine (free) I used it for a while succesfully then discovered via a forum it stored 50Gb yes Gb on my PC, what the blazes for I do not know.
I'm now using MS remote desktop when I found you can use it with Win 10, works great!
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Use RDP with Tailscale or Google Remote Desktop. Also get Tailscale.
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Jerry Gerber:
I've been using Windows Desktop Connection (comes with Windows) to connect my Win11 mini-PC to my Win10 desktop at home.
I'm losing connection multiple times a night. I have tried changing some recommended settings in my Windows remote PC group policy editor to resolve this but it's still happening.
Does anyone have any suggestions either for settings in Windows that might alleviate this or is there another free remote desktop app that will work without this issue?
Thanks!
Jerry I had the same problem. As long as there is user activity, the connection stays up. The resolution is to disconnect the RDC when you leave it idle for a period. The other night I attempted to image a target using NINA for the first time and after 2 successful shots I went to bed, only to find the next morning that the remote PC was disconnected and had powered down. It had stayed up for a total of 5-600 second subs. I researched and found settings to change and still no go. I've since tried several things, but find that if I disconnect from the remote desktop, the remote PC continues to run NINA without a hitch. When I come back to it, I connect via RDC and resume.
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Jerry Gerber:
I've been using Windows Desktop Connection (comes with Windows) to connect my Win11 mini-PC to my Win10 desktop at home.
I'm losing connection multiple times a night. I have tried changing some recommended settings in my Windows remote PC group policy editor to resolve this but it's still happening.
Does anyone have any suggestions either for settings in Windows that might alleviate this or is there another free remote desktop app that will work without this issue?
Thanks!
Jerry
I had the same problem. As long as there is user activity, the connection stays up. The resolution is to disconnect the RDC when you leave it idle for a period. The other night I attempted to image a target using NINA for the first time and after 2 successful shots I went to bed, only to find the next morning that the remote PC was disconnected and had powered down. It had stayed up for a total of 5-600 second subs. I researched and found settings to change and still no go. I've since tried several things, but find that if I disconnect from the remote desktop, the remote PC continues to run NINA without a hitch. When I come back to it, I connect via RDC and resume. That makes sense. I started doing that too. I am still considering Chrome Remote as many astrophotographers seem happy with it.
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Jerry Gerber:
That makes sense. I started doing that too. I am still considering Chrome Remote as many astrophotographers seem happy with it. Not a fan of Chrome, or Google.
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I've been using RDP together with Wireguard VPN to my router at home. Works like a charm.
So much that my workstation at home is also just accessed via RDP as I dont have enough space in my flat to have a full fledged desktop setup. I use my laptop to login into my workstation (or mini PC in a remote observatory) and that' it.
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DavesView:
Jerry Gerber:
I've been using Windows Desktop Connection (comes with Windows) to connect my Win11 mini-PC to my Win10 desktop at home.
I'm losing connection multiple times a night. I have tried changing some recommended settings in my Windows remote PC group policy editor to resolve this but it's still happening.
Does anyone have any suggestions either for settings in Windows that might alleviate this or is there another free remote desktop app that will work without this issue?
Thanks!
Jerry
I had the same problem. As long as there is user activity, the connection stays up. The resolution is to disconnect the RDC when you leave it idle for a period. The other night I attempted to image a target using NINA for the first time and after 2 successful shots I went to bed, only to find the next morning that the remote PC was disconnected and had powered down. It had stayed up for a total of 5-600 second subs. I researched and found settings to change and still no go. I've since tried several things, but find that if I disconnect from the remote desktop, the remote PC continues to run NINA without a hitch. When I come back to it, I connect via RDC and resume. You can fix that: Go to Windows Group Policy Editor-Local Computer Policy-Computer Configuration-Administrative Templates-Windows Components-Remote Desktop Services-Remote Desktop Session Host-ConnectionsNow open Configure Keep-Alive Connection Interval . Enable it and choose an interval in minutes, I chose 1 (1 minute). Click OK. This will cause RDC to keep connection alive even without activity. Your way works too, disconnect your host from the remote PC when you're not at the computer. Then reconnect when you want to check on things. It will reconnect very quickly, and refresh the connection.
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Jerry Gerber:
You can fix that: Go to Windows Group Policy Editor-Local Computer Policy-Computer Configuration-Administrative Templates-Windows Components-Remote Desktop Services-Remote Desktop Session Host-Connections
Now open Configure Keep-Alive Connection Interval . Enable it and choose an interval in minutes, I chose 1 (1 minute). Click OK.
This will cause RDC to keep connection alive even without activity. Currently giving it a try.
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Sounds like wifi issues. Try a repeater/extender. They're cheap on Amazon, I use mine in the field with windows remote desktop. No issues.
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Jerry Gerber:
You can fix that: Go to Windows Group Policy Editor-Local Computer Policy-Computer Configuration-Administrative Templates-Windows Components-Remote Desktop Services-Remote Desktop Session Host-Connections
Now open Configure Keep-Alive Connection Interval . Enable it and choose an interval in minutes, I chose 1 (1 minute). Click OK.
This will cause RDC to keep connection alive even without activity.
Currently giving it a try. Try it on both computers, the host and remote PC. I hope it helps.
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Jerry Gerber:
Try it on both computers, the host and remote PC. I hope it helps. *I changed it on the host only so far and the connection has stayed up for quite some time. I have the remote PC screen minimized, so I guess that's inactive enough. I'll leave it up all night.
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Jerry Gerber:
You can fix that: Go to Windows Group Policy Editor-Local Computer Policy-Computer Configuration-Administrative Templates-Windows Components-Remote Desktop Services-Remote Desktop Session Host-Connections
Now open Configure Keep-Alive Connection Interval . Enable it and choose an interval in minutes, I chose 1 (1 minute). Click OK.
This will cause RDC to keep connection alive even without activity. This fix appears to have solved the issue. The connection stayed up all night. Thanks, Jerry!
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Vincent Savioz:
I usually use Chrome Remote Desktop. It’s free, but I think you are limited to a 30-minute continuous session.
If you don’t need to monitor your session all night, it might be the way to go. Otherwise, I don’t know Remote Desktop well enough to help. Chrome remote desktop is inherently really slow. How do you have patience to deal with the lag time?
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I already made a comment to someone else but just curious- isn't chrome desktop just slow..I mean really slow?
I used it once and called it quits because the lag time was just infuriating.
(And no I don't have slow internet connection)
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